[Eagleprojects] Eagle Project Originality

Fri Feb 29 23:33:44 CST 2008

Hi all,

For the future it should be noted that on page 4 of the Eagle Scout Leadership Service Project Workbook there is a section explicitly addressing the question of whether the project must be original:

"Originality

Does the leadership service project for Eagle have to be original, perhaps something you dream up that has never been done before?  The answer:  No, but it certainly could be.  You may pick a project that has been done before, but you must accept responsibility for planning, directing, and following through to its successful completion."

The BSA does not care about originality; it cares about leadership and service.  The hungry people who benefit from a food collection project do not care if others have been fed before.  Unfortunately many of the needs in our society are recurrently the same, and each scout that leads one of these projects is experiencing for himself the value of organizing a group and helping others.  Further, I do not think that our Troop wants to be in the position of imposing requirements that go beyond official scout literature; it sends a mixed message that we can ill afford at this time of difficult recruitment.

This being said, I do not have a problem with various leaders, parents, etc. in the Troop brainstorming to come up with additional project ideas as Bruce suggests.  There may be various conservation projects, disability assistance, or building reconstructions out there that our scouts can do.

Peter

>>> "Bruce Winston" <makor at earthlink.net> 02/29/08 6:14 PM >>>
Hello folks,

I'm reluctant to give the go-ahead to Justin for next week.  He was told 
several months ago to get things ready in advance and not to cram the 
approval process into one week.  Additionally, we should start thinking of 
some new project ideas since the collection concept has been overused in the 
past couple of years.  I'm not trying to stand in the way, but I did
explain these issues to Justin over two months ago.

Take care,
Bruce

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Mayer" <scoutmaster at bsatroop113.org>
To: "'Peter Reich'" <preich at law.whittier.edu>; 
<eagleprojects at bsatroop113.org>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Eagleprojects] FW: eagle scout project write up

> My concern was getting the approvals in time.
>
> Erik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Reich [mailto:preich at law.whittier.edu]
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 17:56
> To: eagleprojects at bsatroop113.org; scoutmaster at bsatroop113.org
> Subject: Re: [Eagleprojects] FW: eagle scout project write up
>
> Other scouts have used two weekends.  I don't object to the original
> location (either Carlson or Lindberg would be fine) and it looks like he 
> is
> discussing what the scouts will do in about as much detail as possible at
> this point.  I think we should give him the go-ahead.
>
> Peter
>
>>>> "Erik Mayer" <scoutmaster at bsatroop113.org> 02/29/08 4:16 PM >>>
> Comments? I wonder if he has enough time to do this in two weeks?
>
>
>
> Erik
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: Jean Mills [mailto:mills.jean at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 21:21
> To: Erik Mayer
> Subject: RE: eagle scout project write up
>
>
>
> Erik-
>
> Instead of by Vets Park how about Lindberg Park. As for what the scouts
> would be doing: the first day they would put together the bags and flyer's
> so they would be ready to pass out on the weekend hopefully the 9th. On 
> the
> ninth the scouts would meet at my house and i would tell them what we are
> going to do. i would divide them into groups and tell the group leaders 
> what
> specific streets they were doing and give them the bags. they would place
> the bags on the front porch of peoples houses and once they are done we 
> will
> meet back at my house for food. they following weekend, hopefully sat. 
> 15th
> i would pick out groups again and give them there streets and tell them to
> pick up the bags of food on the front porch and take it to there vehicle.
> after all the food has been collected we would go back to my house and
> unload all off the food. i would tell them what the food bank will accept
> and what they wont ie: glass jars, expired, ect. they will then sort 
> through
> all the food to weed out what we dont want. after the sorting is complete 
> we
> would have food. and during that week i would arrange to drop off all of
> that food.
>   if you have any more questions or want me to clarify something get back
> to as soon as you can. thank you.
>
>   - Justin
>
> Erik Mayer <scoutmaster at bsatroop113.org> wrote:
>
> Justin-
>
>
>
> Here are some concerns in regards to your project:
>
>
>
> The area you plan to collect in has been used a lot recently by other
> projects. Please consider using a different area of the city.
>
>
>
> We would like to see more detail on exactly what the Scouts will be doing
> each day.
>
>
>
> Please address our concerns and email your reply to me at
> scoutmaster at bsatroop113.org
>
>
>
> Erik
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: Jean Mills [mailto:mills.jean at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 21:56
> To: Erik Mayer
> Subject: RE: eagle scout project write up
>
>
>
> Hey Erik its been a week and i was wondering if the committee has almost
> decided yet.
> Justin
>
> Erik Mayer <scoutmaster at bsatroop113.org> wrote:
>
> I am forwarding it to the Committee.
>
>
>
> Erik
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: Jean Mills [mailto:mills.jean at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 21:25
> To: scoutmaster at bsatroop113.org
> Subject: eagle scout project write up
>
>
>
> Hey Erik here is my Eagle Scout Project Write Up. Please let me know if 
> you
> have any questions or comments. Thank You
> Justin Mills-Orcutt
>
>
>
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