[BULK] RE: [Eagleprojects] FW: Looking for written rules
Erik Mayer
scoutmaster at bsatroop113.org
Mon Mar 3 08:06:39 CST 2008
We could.
Erik
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[mailto:eagleprojects-bounces at bsatroop113.org] On Behalf Of tony brqvo
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 23:31
To: eagleprojects at bsatroop113.org
Subject: RE: [BULK] RE: [Eagleprojects] FW: Looking for written rules
Do you want to meet at my house?
Patti
Erik Mayer <scoutmaster at bsatroop113.org> wrote:
Ami-
Can you bring one of Robbie's Patrol Leader Manuals for Drake and an email
it to me for future use? I can meet this Tuesday also. Drake's Patrol
Meeting is this Thursday, but I have a CERT Meeting that night.
Erik
-----Original Message-----
From: eagleprojects-bounces at bsatroop113.org
[mailto:eagleprojects-bounces at bsatroop113.org] On Behalf Of ami at shiltons.net
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 23:19
To: tony brqvo
Cc: eagleprojects at bsatroop113.org
Subject: RE: [BULK] RE: [Eagleprojects] FW: Looking for written rules
I will be there at 7:00 p.m. to meet with Patrick Bishoff(I know I am
spelling his name wrong) for the Pet Care merit badge but could meet after
that. I know that there is a patrol meeting that night so I am not sure
where we can meet. Carole did mention that Tony was supposed to meet with
Drake.
Please know that I am not trying to point any fingers. I am not really
involved that much since Robbie has graduated but since Erik asked me to
call Drake I am just reporting what I was told.
Ami
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [BULK] RE: [Eagleprojects] FW: Looking for written rules
> From: tony brqvo
> Date: Sun, March 02, 2008 11:13 pm
> To: eagleprojects at bsatroop113.org
>
> Tony planned to meet with Drake last Tuesday before the troop meeting but
since the PLC was not prepared for the troop meeting that night the meeting
was postponed, I think. He meets with all of our, patrol 1, patrol's leaders
and makes sure they understand thier duties.
> I can meet this Tuesday
> Patti
>
> ami at shiltons.net wrote:
> Carole is reporting what Drake is telling her. There is a communication
breakdown between what Drake is hearing and what he is telling his mother.
Carole did say that Drake does not really know what he should be doing as a
Patrol Leader. I am not sure who should be training the patrol leaders now
but if he does not know what to do he needs to be told. I told Carole that
everything is on the website. She told me that she was not aware of that. I
can't meet this week as I am leaving Wednesday night to take Robbie to CA/NV
sectionals in Mission Viejo. You may meet with her without me. Carole said
that Drake was never told about the proposal portion. I did tell her that
Eagle projects are not usually discussed with Junior scouts as they should
be completing other parts of scouting and that Eagle projects are usually
discussed with the senior scouts. Again, I am in agreement but since I was
asked to speak with Drake and then got to listen to Carole I am only
reporting what I
> was told.
>
> A
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: RE: [BULK] RE: [Eagleprojects] FW: Looking for written rules
> > From: tony brqvo
>
> > Date: Sun, March 02, 2008 10:59 pm
> > To: Erik Mayer , ami at shiltons.net,
> > 'Peter Reich'
>
> > Cc: eagleprojects at bsatroop113.org
> >
> > I know I haven't responded to the emails, but I did state my opinion at
this afternoon's committee meeting. Drake needs to grow as a leader. He
called Aaron last Tuesday afternoon for the troop meeting that night and
stated he wasn't sure if the uniform for that meeting was to be class A or
B. I agree that Drake is too young for all this and he needs some maturing
to go.
> >
> > i think we should all be there to discuss this with Carole. It cannot be
Mondays, or Tuesday, March 11. Can we meet another evening this week? I'm
free.
> >
> > Just a thought, if Carole is researching all this, shouldn't she be
familiar with the approval process? Which starts with the scoutmaster, then
the proposal... which we never received.
> >
> > Patti
> >
> >
> > Erik Mayer wrote:
> > I can meet on Monday. We have a very busy meeting on the 11th and I will
not
> > be able to meet at 7 PM. I do not remember talking to Drake in January
about
> > a project. If we did it was most likely Drake wanting to know if he
could do
> > a blood drive for his project and me saying yes, not knowing that Drake
was
> > planning to do this right away.
> >
> > As far as not getting back to Carole, I purposely did not reply to her
> > awaiting Ami's intervention.
> >
> > We discussed this issue at this afternoon's Troop Committee Meeting and
> > everyone was in agreement that Drake is not ready for his project. I am
> > aware that you can do your project before other requirements are done.
That
> > is not the issue as I see it. Drake needs to mature more as a Scout and
> > demonstrate more leadership as a Patrol Leader, ASPL, or SPL before I
> > believe he will be ready for his Eagle project. His only leadership to
date
> > is Chaplain's Aide and one month as Patrol Leader. All of our past
Eagles
> > had done significantly more leadership. Lee Wolkowitz made Eagle at age
14,
> > but he was mature and an exceptional Scout.
> >
> > What time do we want to meet on Monday?
> >
> > Erik
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ami at shiltons.net [mailto:ami at shiltons.net]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 22:22
> > To: Peter Reich; Tony Bravo
> > Cc: eagleprojects at bsatroop113.org; scoutmaster at bsatroop113.org
> > Subject: RE: [BULK] RE: [Eagleprojects] FW: Looking for written rules
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just got off the phone with Carol Myers. She is very upset. She feels
> > that Drake was told one thing in January and is now being told something
> > else. At this point I have suggested that we have a meeting with her,
> > Drake, Erik, Peter and me and possibly Patti to discuss this situation
so
> > that we can move forward. Erik, she feels that you have not communicated
to
> > Drake in a clear manner what he should or should not be doing. I did
tell
> > her that often our young sons are told one thing and that they hear
> > something else. Again, we all need to be in the same room and get all of
us
> > on the same page. If we as a group feel that Drake is too young to do
the
> > project we need to tell him that and have concrete evidence as to why we
> > feel that way. According to the scout books a scout can be working on
their
> > merit badges and project at the same time. Drake does know that he must
> > submit the project to Erik and to the Advancement board of the troop for
> > approval before he can move to the next step. Carol said that he was not
> > told that when he came to Erik in January with the idea.
> >
> > I don't want to get into a he said she said discussion. I think that we
> > need to all meet the week after next and close this chapter. Carol and I
> > can't meet on Monday, March 10th but could meet on Tuesday at 7:00 p.m.
> > before the troop meeting. Let me know what you think and then Erik could
> > you please coordinate this. Carol is very upset that you have not
responded
> > to Drake or to her so we need to get this finalized now.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ami
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: RE: [BULK] RE: [Eagleprojects] FW: Looking for written rules
> > > From: "Peter Reich"
> >
> > > Date: Sun, March 02, 2008 7:27 pm
> > > To:
> > > Cc: ,
> > >
> > > That sounds great; thanks Ami.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > >>> 03/02/08 6:25 PM >>>
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just got off the phone with Drake. I told him that I strongly
suggested
> > that he complete more of the merit badges and leadership before he
> > undertakes the project. I explained the process - however, you may want
to
> > send him the links. I explained that he must not schedule anything until
> > all approvals are complete. He wants to get things done before he gets
to
> > high school because he is concerned with the work load. I told him to
get
> > those merit badges completed by the end of the summer and consider doing
the
> > project in the fall. I did tell him that eagles who do these projects
when
> > they are slightly older get more out of them. I explained that an eagle
> > project is not only about doing the project but how you lead the
project.
> > You should not be doing all of the work.
> > >
> > > I hope this sunk in. His mom was not on the phone as I called his
cell.
> > I offered to meet with him to discuss this or if he or his mom have any
> > additional questions.
> > >
> > > Ami
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: Re: [BULK] RE: [Eagleprojects] FW: Looking for written
rules
> > > > From: "Peter Reich"
> >
> > > > Date: Sat, March 01, 2008 9:50 pm
> > > > To: ,
> > > > Cc:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Ami.
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > >>> 03/01/08 7:07 PM >>>
> > > > I left a message for Drake. I want his mother to hear what I have to
> > say so I will encourage her to be on the line.
> > > >
> > > > Ami
> > > >
> > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > Subject: [Eagleprojects] FW: Looking for written rules
> > > > > From: "Erik Mayer"
> > > > > Date: Sat, March 01, 2008 10:23 am
> > > > > To:
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI. I have not responded awaiting Ami's call to Drake.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the info she requested:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.bsatroop113.org/advancement/eagle_scout_rank.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
http://www.bsatroop113.org/advancement/eagle_project_information.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.scouting.org/BoyScouts/AdvancementandAwards.aspx
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Erik
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _____
> > > > >
> > > > > From: bsa113 at aol.com [mailto:bsa113 at aol.com]
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:05
> > > > > To: scoutmaster at bsatroop113.org
> > > > > Subject: Fwd: Looking for written rules
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Mrs. Myers
> > > > > To: bsa113 at aol.com
> > > > > Sent: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 7:25 am
> > > > > Subject: Looking for written rules
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Erik....
> > > > > I have gone on line and I am looking for all the written rules and
> > > > > regulations/standards that the BSA has for working on an Eagle
> > project.
> > > > > Where are the written guildline? Does troop 113 have a different
set
> > of
> > > > > written guideline and where might one find those?
> > > > > I am not looking for the Eagle Scout Workbook.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you know who and where I get this information.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > Carole Myes
> > > > >
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